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FaerieChild wrote:My only problem is this:
In the meantime... I don't want my family to be at risk. Its all fine and dandy to say, "The Feds should take care of this!" but present your righteous anger to the mother of a child who has been shot in a drive-by, or the children of an elderly victim of a home invasion.
I agree with you philisophically...but...
What am I supposed to do to protect my family while the feds dink around with their politics?
Plus..... O&C funding will only put us back to extremely underfunded instead of tragically underfunded.

rightminded wrote:FaerieChild wrote:My only problem is this:
In the meantime... I don't want my family to be at risk. Its all fine and dandy to say, "The Feds should take care of this!" but present your righteous anger to the mother of a child who has been shot in a drive-by, or the children of an elderly victim of a home invasion.
I agree with you philisophically...but...
What am I supposed to do to protect my family while the feds dink around with their politics?
Plus..... O&C funding will only put us back to extremely underfunded instead of tragically underfunded.
FC I totally understand your point on this matter. This is exactly what the commissioners and sheriffs office is banking on, that everyone will think this way and vote in favor, in the meantime. Then nothing will be done to see that we have our rights back, because the money will be there to operate. Fear and Greed FC.....Fear and Greed. That is what our country operates on.

rightminded wrote:Is SORA taking a stand not to support the Criminal Justice Levy?
rightminded wrote: Are you not supporting it either? I am still on the fence, after reading this Jack, I don't think I will support the levy. This is so true, why should I have to pay additional taxes when the responsiblilty lies with Congress.

FaerieChild wrote:My only problem is this:
In the meantime... I don't want my family to be at risk. Its all fine and dandy to say, "The Feds should take care of this!" but present your righteous anger to the mother of a child who has been shot in a drive-by, or the children of an elderly victim of a home invasion.
I agree with you philisophically...but...
What am I supposed to do to protect my family while the feds dink around with their politics?
Plus..... O&C funding will only put us back to extremely underfunded instead of tragically underfunded.

rightminded wrote:FaerieChild wrote:My only problem is this:
In the meantime... I don't want my family to be at risk. Its all fine and dandy to say, "The Feds should take care of this!" but present your righteous anger to the mother of a child who has been shot in a drive-by, or the children of an elderly victim of a home invasion.
I agree with you philisophically...but...
What am I supposed to do to protect my family while the feds dink around with their politics?
Plus..... O&C funding will only put us back to extremely underfunded instead of tragically underfunded.
FC I totally understand your point on this matter. This is exactly what the commissioners and sheriffs office is banking on, that everyone will think this way and vote in favor, in the meantime. Then nothing will be done to see that we have our rights back, because the money will be there to operate. Fear and Greed FC.....Fear and Greed. That is what our country operates on.


FaerieChild wrote:ok... but you didn't answer my question on what my family is to do in the meantime.... move away? buy a gun? I don't really like either option.

diogenes wrote:In principle, I agree with Sidewinder. And, ultimately, I think that's probably the right thing to do. In reality, though, what are the chances of getting a Democratic congress to exempt the O&C lands from the ESA? Assuming we can make it happen, how long will it take?

Sidewinder wrote:The chances of getting a Republican or Democratic Congress to do anything are ZERO unless every politician has his back to the wall and feels the pressure. That is our job.
Sidewinder wrote:Rely upon fundamental street smarts like they do in the big cities. Keep your eyes open. Recognize potentially dangerous situations, areas and avoid them.

diogenes wrote:Been there, done that. Don't want to live like that.By the time we make it back even to where we are today, I'll be too old to enjoy it. Living like that takes a lot out of you. It sucks the joy right out of your life. This place is like paradise to me. I've already lived in hell, and I'd rather live in paradise. (Even if it costs a little extra.)
sidewinder wrote: It would have been nice if the commissioners had proposed a life boat levy rather than the QEII. They chose to play hardball, forcing us to exactly the dilemma you describe. They're betting you will cave.
diogenes wrote:Fundamentally, Sidewinder, I agree with you. But my big concern is, how long will it take? It doesn't do any good to stop the bleeding after the patient is dead.

Sidewinder wrote:If the levy is succesful, we have three comfortable years during which time we can expect no support from the commissioners.
If the subsidy renewal goes through, let's say Bush agrees to the pork if Congress will remove the poison pill, then we again have years but the pressure will be on the commissioners because of the annually declining subsidy.
If both fail, the pressure is on instantly and the O&C exemption is the only fix that can be accomplished by the stroke of a pen.

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